benny said:
NIN didn't really hold hate before anyway. did they? (not that most PLD did any better) maybe +enmity will get a little more attention now. Put those sniper's away~ ww
A good NIN holds hate just as well as any good PLD. It's just that they build hate differently. NIN build it up over time, PLD can take it all at once. Can't really call me too biased either. My PLD is 56. Not as much experience on that as on NIN but, I'll explain why I like a good NIN tank.
If they're good they'll hold hate just fine, not to mention do a good deal of damage. It's a tank that rarely gets hit, less MP used, and does damage. A DD tank. It just results in faster kills. In fact, I'll post my parse results from one of my parties in my static around lv68ish. We were fighting goobbue and the occassional steelshell in boyahda tree. I think it shows what I'm talking about here.
Experience
Start: 12:00:00 AM
Total Exp: 13728
Per Hour: 0
Per Minute: 0
Experience Chains
EXP Chain #0: 2176 - 18 times, 120.89 average.
EXP Chain #1: 2405 - 17 times, 141.47 average.
EXP Chain #2: 2365 - 16 times, 147.81 average.
EXP Chain #3: 2566 - 16 times, 160.38 average.
EXP Chain #4: 2384 - 15 times, 158.93 average.
EXP Chain #5: 1646 - 10 times, 164.6 average.
EXP Chain #6: 186 - 1 times, 186 average.
Cheater (MNK/WAR - just standing in, not really part of static)
Total Fights: 93
Average Damage: 1399.63
Average Percent: 30.42
Average Accuracy: 91.21
Estimated DPS:
Sourapple (WAR/NIN)
Total Fights: 93
Average Damage: 1395.51
Average Percent: 30.4
Average Accuracy: 82.04
Estimated DPS:
Fiko (NIN/WAR)
Total Fights: 93
Average Damage: 910.81
Average Percent: 19.83
Average Accuracy: 84.56
Estimated DPS:
Joanna (THF/NIN)
Total Fights: 93
Average Damage: 696.17
Average Percent: 15.15
Average Accuracy: 73.99
Estimated DPS:
SC: Light
Total Fights: 23
Average Damage: 264.48
Average Percent: 5.68
Average Accuracy: 100
Estimated DPS:
Kanopi (RDM/WHM)
Total Fights: 83
Average Damage: 114.61
Average Percent: 2.49
Average Accuracy: 0
Estimated DPS:
Sarahlynn (BRD/WHM)
Total Fights: 2
Average Damage: 21
Average Percent: 0.44
Average Accuracy: 0
Estimated DPS:
I wasn't too far behind the WAR and MNK. And above the THF. Although his damage was sort of low that day. We were usually about even. And keep in mind this is before the more damaging katanas at 70+. I wish I saved the data I parsed a few weeks ago in Ro'Maeve. Had full attack/STR gear on and damage was around 1200-1300. Oh well, maybe I'll do it again sometime lol.
Also, about the snipers - most good nins macro in two eris' earrings and mermaid ring for voke ^^
In the case of a bad NIN though... absolute worst thing you could have.
And to any PLDs out there, dont take this as a "omg plds are teh suck," just my opinion. I just prefer NIN tanks in my exp parties on mnk and war (and nin obviously..)
As for the update, I see little difference in my hate-holding abilities. There is some, but it's very small and the damage NIN does more than makes up for it. Then again, I haven't actually exp'd yet, just what I saw on ungur and amikiri with gimp RNG DD >.> We'll see what happens when I exp with MNKs and WARs.