Blue Magic Skillchain Info

Discussion in 'Blue Mage' started by Araius, May 5, 2006.

  1. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Aden made an updated SC chart that includes Blue Magic and puppet skills, but a lot of it was based on faulty information that we had at the time, so quite a bit of it is wrong. Don't think he'll make a new one until everything is confirmed, or at least close to it.
     
  2. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    just do what i do, use the prototype Blu renkei chart side by side with the normal one.
     
  3. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Updated and added Sword and Club WS's due to popular demand. Tested Screwdriver >> Starburst the instant I dinged 40 with a BLM friend of mine, and it made Compression. LS-mate confirmed BLU in their party was regularly doing a solo SC: Red Lotus Blade >> Dimensional Death = Fusion.

    Still need tests done on the following:
    58 - Flying Hip Press
    60 - Dimensional Death
    62 - Body Slam (likely has multiple SC traits)
    63 - Frypan
    63 - Hydro Shot
    63 - Spinal Cleave (likely has multiple SC traits, possibly 3)
    69 - Hysteric Barrage (likely has multiple SC traits)
    69 - Tail Slap
     
  4. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    i noticed swift blade isnt there, we're gettin shafted on that one?
     
  5. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Yeah we don't get Swift Blade, only PLD's do :( Hell I'm used to RDM, I'm just happy we get Vorpal Blade, lol. I'm assuming we don't get Hexa Strike, as well. It's possible we do I guess but extremely unlikely. Actually I'm going to just go ahead and say not possible :p
     
  6. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Massive update. Down to only needing the following tests run (test other random stuff too if you want, there may be spells with multiple SC traits that haven't been listed yet)

    62 - Body Slam (anything)

    Any one of the following:
    Spinal Cleave >> Spinal Cleave
    Spinal Cleave >> Dancing Edge
    Spinal Cleave >> Tachi: Jinpu
    Spinal Cleave >> Starburst
    Spinal Cleave >> Sunburst
    Spinal Cleave >> Sturmwind
    Spinal Cleave >> Spinning Scythe
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2006
  7. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Confirmed that Mandibular Bite starts Fragmentation just fine, dunno why people were having problems.

    Still no info on Body Slam yet, and no more on Spinal Cleave yet. If you guys wanna just try different SC's to see if they work go ahead though, I'm sure there's some we missed that have 2 SC traits or whatever.
     
  8. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    only oddities ive seen making sc's on blu is when other doof's use their WS's mid-sc. The idea of a tpburn pt has made some people forget how skillchains work i think
     
  9. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Repost from KI:

    As of now there is only one spell that is not on the chart, that being Body Slam. If -anyone- has information regarding ways you can SC with Body Slam, lemme know.

    There is also one spell that needs the priorities of it tested, Spinal Cleave. Doing any one of the following SC's (none of which can be done solo) will determine what priorities Spinal Cleave have (only one of these needs to be done, not all of them):

    Spinal Cleave >> Spinal Cleave (Detonation or Scission)
    Spinal Cleave >> Terror Touch (Gravitation or Reverberation)
    Spinal Cleave >> Death Scissors (Gravitation or Reverberation)
    Spinal Cleave >> Dancing Edge (Detonation or Scission)
    Spinal Cleave >> Tachi: Jinpu (Detonation or Scission)
    Spinal Cleave >> Starburst (Gravitation or Reverberation)
    Spinal Cleave >> Sunburst (Gravitation or Reverberation)
    Spinal Cleave >> Sturmwind (Reverberation or Scission)
    Spinal Cleave >> Spinning Scythe (Reverberation or Scission)

    There also -may- be some SC's that haven't been found yet for spells that already are on the chart, but could have multiple SC traits. Especially try Hysteric Barrage - In particular, try Red Lotus Blade >> Hysteric Barrage, or any combination that would create Fusion or Impaction.

    Once those 3 spells (Body Slam, Spinal Cleave, and Hysteric Barrage) have been tested, I'll make a final version of the chart and e-mail it to Aden.
     
  10. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    i wonder if there's been any reportings of /bst causing issues learning spells... 3 different trips to the desert working on 1000 needles with /bst and npc to soak up some dmg.. and nothing learned... ill head out again today to try for it, maybe have some luck.
     
  11. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    I've heard people having troubles with learning 1000 needles in general, I wonder if only certain mobs will teach it. Like there's Sabotenders and Cactaurs, maybe only one type will teach it.

    Also I was pointed to a link to the JP FFXI Wiki, which they translated as showing Spinal Cleave having a priority in Detonation over Scission, and Body Slam is listed as Impaction. I added those and emailed Aden with the "final" chart, though there might be ones that haven't been found yet.
     
  12. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    yeah ive tried both Sabotendeur in eastern (til i linked cactrot and got pwn'd) and Cactuar in western with no luck. My thought is that maybe since the mob is usually using 1000needles on my pet as a target, and since pet isnt necessarily in pt with me... maybe thats causing some trouble? idk really...
     
  13. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    How far are you from being able to use 1000 Needles? Maybe the level gap is too big, I think its like 5 or 6 levels max at that level.

    Or more likely, miniature cacti just hate you.
     
  14. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    57 still, only xping once or twice a week in a static. puts me at the 5 lvl gap. although koul did learn feather tickle somewhere between 57-58(?) while exping in the woodlands. so it seems possible to learn from more than 5 lvls away, maybe just gets harder as you lvl higher? who knows. most likely i just have horrid luck.
     
  15. Koul

    Koul nyquil zombie FC/Active Member

    FFXIV Name:
    Chuggs M'Koul
    Yes, when I was lvling on those birds I learned feather tickle when I was either 57 or 58... I didn't notice I learned the spell until the next morning when I logged on and went to do my ritual of organizing all my magic once I log on

    to my AMAZEMENT!! I saw a new spell at the bottom, what the piss?! Feathah Tickle?! When did I learn that I said to myself! Confused and shocked I checked my level (lvl 58... but I thought... enterprising)

    so I think that lvl junk is bullflop to a extent
     
  16. Araius

    Araius Fatty Pirate

    Feather Tickle's 64, if you were 58 that makes sense, I'm pretty sure the level gap is 6 levels from 50-70, from what I've heard/seen. Now if you were 57, that'd be something :eek:
     
  17. Aelfinn

    Aelfinn Moose

    i picked up feather tickle at lvl58 within 1k of dinging, after about 13k xp worth of xping on colibri. 6 level difference seems to be a solid number there, yeah. that being said, at lvl 57 i spent about 6hrs working on 1000 needles with no success... ill go out and try again :p