Araius
Fatty Pirate
Aden (Adennak) and myself have been working diligently to figure out all of the skillchain properties and priorities for physical Blue Magic. So far I've compiled this information using his renkei chart format:
Trouble is, we can't test or confirm any of them that still need checked because neither of us are 40 BLU yet
Stupid finals :arg:
He and I have compiled a list of tests we need run on KI and Alla but the response so far has been..umm...nonexistant I don't know if anyone here is 40 BLU but I figured I'd give it a shot since I know some people here like testing stuff
Adennak:
Okay, I have some A/B/C trials that I need confirmations on. What I normally do is post specific tests that will give me the priority information that I need, so that's what I am going to do here.
Uppercut This one is Thunder and Fire, but I don't know in what direction. Because they connect to each other (and not much else connects to both), it has to be an in-property test. Which means that Uppercut MUST START the Renkei used for the test, or else the other WS's priority will take effect. The good news is that Uppercut can Self Renkei, and that would work. In fact, any of these would give me the information I need:
Uppercut > Uppercut = ?
Uppercut > Spinning Axe = ?
Uppercut > Spinning Attack = ?
Uppercut > Full Swing = ?
Screwdriver Much like Uppercut, Screwdriver appears to be self-referential. However, it is only self-referential in one direction, so linking it to itself would only ever produce Distortion. That being the case, I've also provided some alternate tests. Any of these would answer its priority question (by determining whether Screwdriver starts in Light or in Earth):
Screwdriver > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Screwdriver > Spinning Axe = ?
Screwdriver > Dancing Edge = ?
Araius:
Hopefully you get better feedback than I did :x I'll put what I posted before in a similar format, these should determine priorities as well:
If these make Reverberation, Screwdriver's priority is Earth. If they make Compression, its Light.
Screwdriver > Starburst = ?
Screwdriver > Sunburst = ?
If these make Fusion, Uppercut's priority is Fire. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Uppercut > Raging Axe = ?
Uppercut > Earth Crusher = ?
Uppercut > Cyclone = ?
Uppercut > True Strike = ?
Uppercut > Blade: Jin = ?
If these make Impaction, Death Scissors's priority is Water. If they make Distortion, its Light.
Death Scissors > Avalanche Axe = ?
Death Scissors > Spinning Axe = ?
Death Scissors > Calamity = ?
Death Scissors > Vorpal Blade = ?
Death Scissors > Crescent Moon = ?
If these make Distortion, Dimensional Death's priority is Light. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Dimensional Death > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Dimensional Death > Dancing Edge = ?
If these make Scission, Hysteric Barrage's priority is Wind. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Hysteric Barrage > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Hysteric Barrage > Dancing Edge = ?
If this makes Scission, Hysteric Barrage's priority is Wind. If it makes Liquefaction, its Thunder.
Hysteric Barrage > Spinning Axe = ?
If these make Fusion, Cannonball's priority is Fire. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Cannonball > Raging Axe = ?
Cannonball > Earth Crusher = ?
Cannonball > Cyclone = ?
Cannonball > True Strike = ?
Cannonball > Blade: Jin = ?
If these make Impaction, Vertical Cleave's priority is Ice. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Vertical Cleave > Raging Axe = ?
Vertical Cleave > Earth Crusher = ?
Vertical Cleave > Cyclone = ?
Vertical Cleave > True Strike = ?
Vertical Cleave > Blade: Jin = ?
Body Slam is easier to figure out. Start with any of the following WS's or BP's, end with Body Slam, and tell us the results:
Piercing Arrow, Sidewinder, Empyreal Arrow, Split Shot, Slug Shot, Detonator, Raging Axe, Gale Axe, Steel Cyclone, True Strike, Gust Slash, Cyclone, Dancing Edge, Evisceration, Backhand Blow, Howling Fist, Blade: Rin, Blade: Chi, Blade: Jin, Blade: Ku, Tachi: Enpi, Tachi: Goten, Tachi: Jinpu, Double Thrust, Thunder Thrust, Raiden Thrust, Vorpal Thrust, Skewer, Vorpal Scythe, Earth Crusher, Shell Crusher, Power Slash, Poison Nails, Crescent Fang, Claw, Tail Whip.
Any of the above > Body Slam = ?
Spinal Cleave, on the other hard, is going to be tougher because it appears to have 3 elements associated with it. Taking this one step at a time is probably best, and testing it with itself will help quit a bit.
If this makes Fragmentation, Spinal Cleave's top priority is Ice. If it makes Induration, its top priority is Thunder. If it makes Reverberation, its top priority is Earth.
Spinal Cleave > Spinal Cleave = ?
Once we've figured that much out, we can figure out what Spinal Cleave's secondary priority is.
Also, not all of these need to be tested. Testing one SC for each spell is plenty to determine what we need to know.
Thanks :shades02:
Trouble is, we can't test or confirm any of them that still need checked because neither of us are 40 BLU yet
Stupid finals :arg:He and I have compiled a list of tests we need run on KI and Alla but the response so far has been..umm...nonexistant
I don't know if anyone here is 40 BLU but I figured I'd give it a shot since I know some people here like testing stuff Adennak:
Okay, I have some A/B/C trials that I need confirmations on. What I normally do is post specific tests that will give me the priority information that I need, so that's what I am going to do here.
Uppercut This one is Thunder and Fire, but I don't know in what direction. Because they connect to each other (and not much else connects to both), it has to be an in-property test. Which means that Uppercut MUST START the Renkei used for the test, or else the other WS's priority will take effect. The good news is that Uppercut can Self Renkei, and that would work. In fact, any of these would give me the information I need:
Uppercut > Uppercut = ?
Uppercut > Spinning Axe = ?
Uppercut > Spinning Attack = ?
Uppercut > Full Swing = ?
Screwdriver Much like Uppercut, Screwdriver appears to be self-referential. However, it is only self-referential in one direction, so linking it to itself would only ever produce Distortion. That being the case, I've also provided some alternate tests. Any of these would answer its priority question (by determining whether Screwdriver starts in Light or in Earth):
Screwdriver > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Screwdriver > Spinning Axe = ?
Screwdriver > Dancing Edge = ?
Araius:
Hopefully you get better feedback than I did :x I'll put what I posted before in a similar format, these should determine priorities as well:
If these make Reverberation, Screwdriver's priority is Earth. If they make Compression, its Light.
Screwdriver > Starburst = ?
Screwdriver > Sunburst = ?
If these make Fusion, Uppercut's priority is Fire. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Uppercut > Raging Axe = ?
Uppercut > Earth Crusher = ?
Uppercut > Cyclone = ?
Uppercut > True Strike = ?
Uppercut > Blade: Jin = ?
If these make Impaction, Death Scissors's priority is Water. If they make Distortion, its Light.
Death Scissors > Avalanche Axe = ?
Death Scissors > Spinning Axe = ?
Death Scissors > Calamity = ?
Death Scissors > Vorpal Blade = ?
Death Scissors > Crescent Moon = ?
If these make Distortion, Dimensional Death's priority is Light. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Dimensional Death > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Dimensional Death > Dancing Edge = ?
If these make Scission, Hysteric Barrage's priority is Wind. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Hysteric Barrage > Tachi: Jinpu = ?
Hysteric Barrage > Dancing Edge = ?
If this makes Scission, Hysteric Barrage's priority is Wind. If it makes Liquefaction, its Thunder.
Hysteric Barrage > Spinning Axe = ?
If these make Fusion, Cannonball's priority is Fire. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Cannonball > Raging Axe = ?
Cannonball > Earth Crusher = ?
Cannonball > Cyclone = ?
Cannonball > True Strike = ?
Cannonball > Blade: Jin = ?
If these make Impaction, Vertical Cleave's priority is Ice. If they make Detonation, its Thunder.
Vertical Cleave > Raging Axe = ?
Vertical Cleave > Earth Crusher = ?
Vertical Cleave > Cyclone = ?
Vertical Cleave > True Strike = ?
Vertical Cleave > Blade: Jin = ?
Body Slam is easier to figure out. Start with any of the following WS's or BP's, end with Body Slam, and tell us the results:
Piercing Arrow, Sidewinder, Empyreal Arrow, Split Shot, Slug Shot, Detonator, Raging Axe, Gale Axe, Steel Cyclone, True Strike, Gust Slash, Cyclone, Dancing Edge, Evisceration, Backhand Blow, Howling Fist, Blade: Rin, Blade: Chi, Blade: Jin, Blade: Ku, Tachi: Enpi, Tachi: Goten, Tachi: Jinpu, Double Thrust, Thunder Thrust, Raiden Thrust, Vorpal Thrust, Skewer, Vorpal Scythe, Earth Crusher, Shell Crusher, Power Slash, Poison Nails, Crescent Fang, Claw, Tail Whip.
Any of the above > Body Slam = ?
Spinal Cleave, on the other hard, is going to be tougher because it appears to have 3 elements associated with it. Taking this one step at a time is probably best, and testing it with itself will help quit a bit.
If this makes Fragmentation, Spinal Cleave's top priority is Ice. If it makes Induration, its top priority is Thunder. If it makes Reverberation, its top priority is Earth.
Spinal Cleave > Spinal Cleave = ?
Once we've figured that much out, we can figure out what Spinal Cleave's secondary priority is.
Also, not all of these need to be tested. Testing one SC for each spell is plenty to determine what we need to know.
Thanks :shades02:
