Shadow Items

How shall we handle Shadow Lord drops?

  • Treat Ring and Mantle seperately as "AF" options.

    Votes: 17 85.0%

  • Allow people to comment either 2 AF or Money or Shadow items.

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
yelsaewnor

yelsaewnor

Ron Weasley
FC/Active Member
Our next run will be Xarc clear if attendance is anything like it was tonight. So it is time to decide what we would like to do with shadow items. I suggest that we treat them each seperately as AF drops. So for example you could lot RDM Ring or Mantle PLD or Ring Mantle.

Thoughts? Comments?

All ideas proposed here will be put up for vote sometime in the next couple days so if you have something to add please post soon.
 
Sounds good.
 
I like the idea of declaring them like that.

Maybe let Coice have the mantle so he can survive a run occasionally?
 
I would suggest we have it as a totally seperate category,

AF; money; craft items; shadow items
 
Fodder said:
maybe separate ring and mantle?
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In what way? Seperate lotting catergory or from each other?

My suggestion would definately have them seperate from each other... not sure about seperate catergory. Will have to think that one over. My intial thought it is not nessecary as long as limit is kept at 2 things commented and 1 win.
 
I think fodder meant a comment could look like

RDM Ring

or

RDM Mantle

Personally, ideally I think tank jobs shoud have priority, but I realize I am extremely biased on the subject and that it might deter people from coming, and honestly - letting someone with mage jobs only win a shadow item, will be worth it if we can get the people to kill the Dynamis Lord on a regular basis. So barring my delusional dreams of job priorities, I like declaring them as a comment in this way - even moreso when they're split up like that. I like that better than putting them in their own category, tbh (AF; shadow items; money).
 
Lexa said:
Personally, ideally I think tank jobs shoud have priority, but I realize I am extremely biased on the subject and that it might deter people from coming
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This would be ideal and I would love it but this is along the same lines as all currency to sponsor heh.

Fodder just confused me because I thought that he was proposing something different from what I had said because of the word maybe.
 
As of right now the suggestions are:

Make each shadow item a seperately declarable "piece of AF" as in my post

or

Make shadow items a lotting catergory as in Faye's post

Will give until 11:30 AM EST Tuesday for new suggestions. At 12:00 PM Tuesday I will put all ideas up for vote. If you have an idea to add please do so before 11:30 AM on Tuesday
 
yelsaewnor said:
As of right now the suggestions are:

Make each shadow item a seperately declarable "piece of AF" as in my post
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That's really the best way to do it.

Let's say someone picks PLD and Ring... if PLD drops and they win then that's their lot and it gets treated like any other win.

The potential problems I see with making it a totally separate category are twofold.

1) We don't even know if we can clear yet. It would suck to be boned out of an entire run like that if we wipe on DL

2) People with less jobs at 75 would be able to lot Shadow items without worrying about other items etc. This may take away from say PLDs that still need Valor or NINs that still want AF and a chance at Shadow gear.
 
Eticket said:
2) People with less jobs at 75 would be able to lot Shadow items without worrying about other items etc. This may take away from say PLDs that still need Valor or NINs that still want AF and a chance at Shadow gear.
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People with multiple jobs at 75 already have a big advantage lotting in Dynamis, so I'm not concerned about giving those with only a few jobs to lot for a break.

But, I still vote for Faye's suggestion and splitting them up.
 
I actually do like faye's suggestion a lot if we got our strat and attendence down pat. Would suck for people only lotting shadow items and we wipe more times then we succeed.
 
For this run I also like at least seperating the shadow items like different pieces of AF2. I got mnk and blm already soo...
 
There's never a guarantee to kill DL, even in Dynamis X we had some baaad wipes with a shitton of people, simply because of bad luck. I don't think it's stable enough to be its own category, even if we do get a strat down and 10-15 wins under our belt. If we get confident enough, I'd rather have this talk again one or four or six months from now.
 
Lexa said:
There's never a guarantee to kill DL, even in Dynamis X we had some baaad wipes with a shitton of people, simply because of bad luck. I don't think it's stable enough to be its own category, even if we do get a strat down and 10-15 wins under our belt. If we get confident enough, I'd rather have this talk again one or four or six months from now.
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I think a lot of it had to do with what defiant said in LS chat after last xarc run. DX had a lot of morons in it as it was an open shell. Everyone that was the last xarc run did more then just pull their weight. The last DL attempt we did in DX I remeber it very clear. The reason we wiped is because the rdm/drks didn't communicate and do there job correctly. I know cause I was on the 3rd set as rdm/drk. Then 2nd set of rdm/drks didn't even get to go. And only one rdm/drk went on the first set.
 
My understanding is that Vibe kills DL pretty regularly. Consider Sunday's run. We killed a lot more mobs in Xarc with 36 than DX ever did with 64. DL is not a guaranteed win, Nor are the shadow items guaranteed drops, but it is doable, and a fun fight is there for the taking whenever there is a Xarc run. The odds of killing DL are far better than claiming and killing Fafhogg on any given day.
 
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