Nerds make better lovers

Aida

Hates you all
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/317296p-271224c.html

Nerds make better lovers
Ready for a real relationship? Ditch the pretty boys and grab yourself a geek

By TRACEY LOMRANTZ



Christina Aguilera recently traded in piercings for petticoats, apparently making the usual Marilyn Monroe morph. But there's more than meets the eye: Sure, she's blond, buxom and sweet-voiced now, but she's also emulating the classic bombshell in matters of the heart.


You see, Aguilera's fiance, like Monroe's husband, playwright Arthur Miller, is kind of a geek.

When Aguilera announced her engagement to smarty-pants music executive Jordan Bratman in February, the 24-year-old pop star demonstrated a tried-and-true dating trick. Geeks have got the goods.

Bratman, with his scrawny frame and oversize ears, has mastered the music industry at just 26 and is Romeo enough to have stolen Aguilera's heart (as well as inspired her new demure-coquette look).

"A nerd is an excellent provider and a guy who puts you first," says E. Jean Carroll, Elle magazine's love and sex advice columnist. "He'll turn out to be a great father and a great husband."

And, she insists that a woman who is willing to stick it out with a nerd and get past his quirks will be handsomely rewarded. "Don't give up on him too fast," she said. "If you stick with him, he's going to turn out to be really great."

If Hollywood is any indication, then yes, he will. This month, reality TV celebrates geek love with two shows: Ashton Kutcher's "Beauty and the Geek," which pairs braniacs with bimbos for a "social experiment," and the latest installment of "Average Joe," in which a pretty girl woos not-so-studly dudes (airing on June 22).

On Fox's "The O.C.," the nerdy Seth Cohen (played by Adam Brody) didn't just land the adorable Summer Roberts (Rachel Bilson) on TV - he managed to get the girl in real life, too. Bilson (and her character) managed to look past the slicked-down hair to find the witty guy beneath. Cohen's obsession with comic books? Her character deems it sweet. Brody's nasal drawl? Bilson doesn't seem to mind.

How can a savvy girl land a geek of her own? Spencer Koppel, a self-proclaimed geek who attends crossword-puzzle tournaments on weekends, has made it easy for girls with their eye on the prize with his "Geek to Geek" dating service, www.gk2gk.com.

Members can meet and select a perfect mate (guys with screen names like "thinkspecs" and "ivygrad") based on favorite board game and gadget instead of eye color, height and other categories the nerds might be lacking.

And according to Koppel, the pool is stocked with supreme sci-fi fans and accomplished intellects.

"I think geeks are more successful. They're happier in the work they do," Koppel said. "And they're pretty faithful people, because they're certainly grateful for anything they have."

When it comes to the between-the-sheets aspect of the relationship, Carroll agreed that a girl couldn't do much better than a less-than-perfect male specimen. "We've all been to bed with the guy who is worried about what he looks like, checking the mirror before he gets in bed," she said. "The nerd, gloriously, stunningly, perfectly, is into the woman. That right there is very stirring, sexually."

Tiger's purr-fect

It seems to be enough for the likes of goddess models and Hollywood A-listers. Tiger Woods has a geek-like drive for a stodgy sport, a fat bank account and Swedish model Elin Nordegren on his arm. David Arquette may not have the body of a Greek god, but he managed to land sexy former Friend Courteney Cox with his goofy humor and mismatched wardrobe.

For Scott Dennis, a 34-year-old teacher from Cobble Hill, Brooklyn, "geek" and "good guy" are synonymous - and he is both. Although some aspects of his personality make him what he called a "quintessential babe magnet" (former jock, drummer in a rock band), the real qualities that helped him land his girlfriend are the geeky ones.

"Do I know the difference between a knight and a pawn? Certainly," he says. "Am I familiar with the Four Move Checkmate? Well, maybe I am. ... But the truth is I'm a decent guy with diverse interests who actually offers authenticity in his relationships."

But to get to that authentic nerd, chic women have to be willing to embrace their own inner geek and accept the guy for who he is, chess trophies and all. The caveat to mating with a geek, as some dating experts see it, is coming to terms with his less-than-studly looks and less-than-suave demeanor. All thoughts of embarrassment have to go out the window.

Andrea Lavinthal, who co-authored (with Jessica Rozler) "The Hookup Handbook," a young woman's guide to navigating the waters of singlehood, says that being sure of your choice of guy is first and foremost.

"Girls tend to worry about what their friends are going to think," she said, "and you have to get over it. You can't always be making excuses and apologies. Give him the respect he deserves, and don't always be assuming you're better than him."

She also said that not all girls are ready for a full-on geek relationship right from the start. Her book has a chapter devoted to "The Snufalufagus Hookup," the one that every girl wishes her friends didn't know about, and that she at first tries to deny happened. "In many ways, it's the first foray into the nerdy guy thing," Lavinthal said. "You're attracted to him because he doesn't screw around. Sure, it's fun to make out with the hot bartender, but you're not going to marry him."

Not falling for the fakes

Koppel, however, warns that unserious girls who prowl his site looking for a breadwinner should use caution - his members may be geeky, but they sure aren't stupid. "I think geeks are intelligent enough to be wary of the idea that an attractive woman is interested in them," he said. "They aren't as drawn to beauty as they are to intelligence, and wouldn't just accept a ditz."

It takes the right kind of girl to love a nerd. Kate Hammer, an NYU student, said she's just that kind of girl. "I have been snagged by nerd charms," she said.

"My ex and I bonded over 'Star Trek,' and on our first date at an amusement park, my current boyfriend impressed me with his intricate understanding of the physics of roller coasters. He's a mechanical engineer." For a modern girl who is far from ditzy, the geek could be the mate who brings security and a load of eclectic interests to the relationship. Even the once-naughty Aguilera managed to find a guy who defines devotion and doesn't compete to be the sexiest one in the relationship. Clearly, it's what a girl wants.

Don't get your hopes up though, apparently the author's definition of "geek" includes a wealthy music producer, Tiger Woods, and a male actor that -plays- a geeky character on television. All generally more attractive and with much fatter wallets than ye olde average nerde.

I won't nitpick the rest of the article since it'll make this post even longer.
 
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What are you trying to tell us, Aida?
 
/shrug I thought it was an engagingly dumb read. I was in the middle of some work and looking for anything to distract me and came across that, figured I'd share it with the rest of you. Edited that last comment of mine out in the original post since rereading it, I don't even make sense to myself. Basically meant to just comment on how low it is that some people will take anything the press spits out as gospel and some wimmmenfolk, after reading this, will actively seek "geeky" guys for whatever reason, generally a shallow one if they're targetting this particular group for the reasons given in the article.

The reasons stated in the article came across something like, "Oh get a geeky guy since he'll be faithful to you regardless of what you do, so you can mess around with your hot man meat who treats you like trash but gives you teh hawt sexx0rs, but still have a home to go back to every night and your doormat will make more money than your sex god will so you're set!" to me, but you know my opinion already on such things.

(I'm a master of completely destroying any sort of structure in a sentence, go me)

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edit because I like abusing the edit function: Yes some of the things in there are fine and anti-golddigger, just the others came off that way.
 
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Heh, I see where you are comming from though. The girls shouldn't need to be told the geeks would be more grateful. It is an aatricle it seems based off 3 references of Celebrities yet they mention Tiger Woods. I'm not into guys, but seriously he isnt bad looking. So thats a bad reference, compared to what most are then refering to as a geek and have impregnated into their minds.
 
Well it depends on how you look at it. I've seen hot friends on mine go with geeks and they still with the same guy for like 3+ years. Take me and my gf we both nerds but it kinda evens itself out. Which I find kind of odd but eh it works we both learned to filter the other person's voice out when they bitching at us. We have to go up to eachother and start touching to grab eachothers attention when either of us are on the pc or ps2.
 
Oh i don't deny it can be true. The slight arguement was how they worded it and wrote it as in "only geeks are good" which isn't always going to be the case. A better reasoning would be the calibur of "Geeks aren't often out on the dating scene so once a girl dates them they will treat the girl the best as to not lose said girl".
 
I know that feeling Ken, although I'm the worst one about shutting out anything other than what I'm playing. He gets back though by pwning me at fighting games and outleveling me on most RPGs.... Only RPG of any kind I've ever outleveled him on is FFXI but at first he was 20 levels higher than me when we were wee nublets, he didn't care much for the game and is probably going to officially delete his character soon (thanks for starting the chain Falk :blue-cry: ). We've been together for 3+ years as well :bfg: unlike your friends though, I'm not hot.

My ranting is more directed at the golddiggers or people out "for a good catch" rather than being with someone because they genuinely have feelings for them. I'm cranky and old-fashioned like that.


>Tarnak: Yeah I wouldn't necessarily consider someone who gets onto the covers of magazines, dates models, and makes more money than most people could ever hope to in their lifetimes to be much of a 'geek'. Does he know what the tenth decimal of Pi is? I think not!
 
The tenth decimal is my fork in some apple crisp.

Yeah its amazing (no offense to the girls) when a girl tells you they love rpg's. Maybe it's just me in California, but the girls here dont ever seem to like videogames. Then out of nowhere bam viva le femme gaming revolution. :tounge-3::tounge-3::tounge-3:

Also, did anyone else get a flashback to "Revenge of the Nerds" when you saw the topic title?
 
Tarnak said:
Also, did anyone else get a flashback to "Revenge of the Nerds" when you saw the topic title?


I'm ashamed to say I did ^^;;;.

Thank god I'm not the only one.

-benny
 
Oh noes, Aida! You've destroyed any hope I had when reading this article! I'm now forever doomed.

Now I have to live with the fact that I'll probably be talking to Ashmus about old 80s/90s T.V. shows.

I did enjoy when he was talking about Full House and the "lesson's learned" music at the end of many shows (when Bob Saget talks to one of his daughters). I really wanted to download something like that to use on Ventrilo...
 
Aida said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/317296p-271224c.html



Don't get your hopes up though, apparently the author's definition of "geek" includes a wealthy music producer, Tiger Woods, and a male actor that -plays- a geeky character on television. All generally more attractive and with much fatter wallets than ye olde average nerde.

I won't nitpick the rest of the article since it'll make this post even longer.

Agreed completey Aida. I saw this article awhile back. That's typical fake Hollywood for you.
 
>Tarnak: I notice it's usually a "highly publicized US release" that gets played by female 'gamers' in California if at all (Halo anyone? Counterstrike?). I'm one of those oddballs (ie: recluses) who buys imports, still go to arcades when I've the mind, and can tell you the JP title for a couple RPG series >,> I hate California really, but we get a lot of imports that the rest of the US doesn't get game-wise (sooner if at all) so I shouldn't whine too much really.

>Archain: Anyone who has that good of a geek voice needs no help from any 3rd party to ruin their love life O,< (j/k j/k) You'd talk to Ashmus about 80's/90's TV shows anyways and you know it!
>Aange: Whoredom is quite the noble lifestyle no? (Get back on and play, I miss you ;_; )
 
Aida said:
>Aange: Whoredom is quite the noble lifestyle no? (Get back on and play, I miss you ;_; )

Thank you for those kind words Aida... I have been extremely busy with my full-time job plus I am teaching this summer. The teaching isnt the problem, its the big problems I have been having at my full-time job. /drama to the power of 10.

I will be back, I have not left.

But, Thanks Aida, miss you too. ;)
 
Interesting topic.
I don't know how the author defines "geek", yet I find it's true the fact that "nerds make better lover". Kalia is a great example!
Also nerds don't treat a girl the way they do because they'r afraid to lose the girl, but because they'r smart enough to know what they want, so when they find the right partner they treat their partners the best way they can.
 
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