Few things about dynamis

I can see both sides, I'll be happy to shush now and let the intelligent people speaky.
 
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Rektify said:
If you do that .. it sounds good (and I stretch that term) on paper, but in theory -- all what garret said happens and probably more. Negative Reputation much at the very least.
Well I disagree completely with Garret's view. He believes putting rules in place makes people just choose not to participate, and I believe putting rules in place structures runs and gets people in line with what they already should be doing. Neither of us can say that the other is wrong, because we've never tried it.

As for reputation, how is that an issue? This is a private LS-based Dynamis shell, with special invitees that we've given the privilege of attending with us. Everyone is culpable of delaying the runs, both Ultima members and invites alike. I see no reason why saying there are two enter times, 8:00EST and 9:30EST, is unreasonable. I certainly think it's more appropriate than just locking out everyone who comes late as was originally proposed, and doing nothing is, as I previously argued, unacceptable imo.
 
lol I'm sorta with Talf on this one. Some of us have shit we need to take care of. I try like hell to get home by 8:00 but it doesn't always happen.
 
For now on I am just going to do this. If you are a money lotter and you show up more then 30 minutes late you will get only 1/2 of what the other money lotters are getting.

One its not fair for someone to show up an hour late and get full cut of what people that are there for the whole run get.

Two it encourges people to show up on time if they can as they won't be getting full cut other wise.

Can't really do anything about AF but if you only show up to half the run and the AF you wanted droped in the first half you missed. Well then you missed out on a chance at that AF.
 
I can go with that but you have to define what the defining point for 'late' is.

30 minutes after gather or 30 minutes after enter? I'm assuming enter.
 
Nekio said:
Well I disagree completely with Garret's view.

I don't think you are really responding to my view. I didn't say you shouldn't enter at a specific time. I said people shouldn't be freezed out of entering for 1 1/2 hours just because they show up after that time. It's one thing to start at 8 and when people show up at 8:15 let them in. It's another thing entirely to start at 8 and if people aren't there on time not allow them to enter the run until 9:30. The latter is what I think is unfair and unproductive to the run.
 
Well that I can agree with, Gar. I was going off the fact that the sacks seemed like they had had enough with popping the mule on every few min to give people glasses, and they were even considering blocking everyone out after enter.
 
yes enter. Because sometimes we don't enter cause of yel and me. :eek: I know its shocking

We do our best to try and have things together so when the time comes around that we should enter we can. That clearly doesn't happen most of the time though. And most of the time it is because of late people or not having jobs that we feel comfortable with doing the run, so need to take time to make changes. Any number of reasons can be why. But it can also be because of us.

I know last night I delayed the run about 10 minutes. I didn't get home though until 30 minutes before the gather together time. I still had a lot of RL stuff to do along with preping for and doing dynamis.

It happens and its not fair if the run happens to be held up by leadership. So it will be 30 minutes after enter time people will only get 1/2 split of what full money lotters are getting.

Also yel and I are going to be pushing even harder then ever to enter 30 minutes after the gather together time.
 
Honestly, no offense to Garr but overall we've been kicking ass on enter compared to DX.
 
I disagree with allowing people to enter only at 8 and 9:30. We have some people like Eticket and Talf who get on as soon as they can and may still be logging on at 8. I would just ask that if this is the situation they make sure that we know they are coming late.

I think that is a good idea Heie. Will encourage people to be on time.

Also I will do my best to have pts made by 7:50 from now on. This means that if you are not on the shell or you have not told me that you will be coming late before that time you will not be accounted for when i make pts. This allows for us to be ready to go at 8, but it also means that if you tend to come late there may not be a pt with an open slot for you.

This doesn't mean that you can't come late and without warning but it does mean that you will either need to come as a self sufficent job (THF DNC BLU to name a few), be willing to die alot, or be flexible enough to come as a mage job. I know this sucks if you end up running late and you want to come DD, but please understand that it is not fair to hold up the run and have people change jobs to
accommodate you.
 
Ontop of what I said about money lotters. I am willing to extend it to an hour of enter time before your currency is cut in half, ONLY if we know you are coming and when you will be back.

That means to be an hour late and get full currency cut you need to do one of the following things.
1.) Have the shell on before the gather together time and have a comment that says when you should be back AND what you plan on lotting.

2.) Send a dynamis sac holder a tell or PM. This only counts if they recieve the tell or PM and relay that info onto yel and me. Example (Coice sends Lexa a tell saying he will be late. Lexa is afk and doesn't plan on attending the run that night. Coice logs off right away and doesn't wait for a response. Coice would have his gil cut in half of the currency drop if he was more then 30 minutes late.)

3.) Post on the sign up thread before the gather together time that you will be late and what time you expect to be on.
 
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