I saw a post in this thread, specifically this one:
...and it kind of blew my mind. It did NOT occur to me that could be who he was talking about. My reply there kind of was my response, but this is something I REALLY had never thought of before, so I'm curious if anyone else felt the same way.
In a nutshell:
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The person pointed out that Graha meant someone in particular when he said he wished he could give them one more day of life, "a happy one", were he to choose. To have just one more day with them.
The poster pointed out that the person he was likely thinking about...was the Warrior of Light in the doomed timeline where most people, including the WoL, died to Black Rose after the 8th Calamity (Stasis) made everyone's immune systems and vigor stagnate and so Black Rose ended up killing far more people, and the WoL was one of the casualties. (Kind of a "Goku died in the original timeline due to an undiagnosed heart condition" thing.)
I always thought he thought of my WoL as his WoL, because in a real way, I WAS his WoL before he was put into stasis (before the timelines split, one could argue we were the same being along that unified timeline).
I never considered the alternate possibility:
I’m not quite HIS WoL friend. Instead, he could see me like maybe if you had a friend that died, but they had a child that was their spitting image you befriended and took it on yourself to see THEY came to no harm. That your actual friend was dead, but you also came to love their child as you had your friend and look after them like a godparent in memory of your friend.
It’s possibly even more complex than that, but I had never thought he would think of us as DIFFERENT than his original WoL friend.
That’s kind of intense. It's a VERY different take than what I've always thought - that he considered our WoL to be his actual friend. What if he doesn't? What if he DOES consider us a friend, and every bit as deep a friendship, but as a memory of, or sort of twin sibling/child of his actual friend. And while he loves us dearly and considers us a true friend in every way, that he still misses his ORIGINAL WoL friend, and still wishes sometimes that he could bring THEM back and all three of us go on adventures together?
What if he considers both WoLs to be individuals, and still misses the dead one, like how the Head of Reason clearly misses his brother, even after 3 years of being gone.
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I dunno, maybe I'm OVERthinking it now...but what if?
That just seems so weighty to me for them to say in story, and makes that moment hit a lot harder (especially for me being too dense to see it). G'Raha is too pure for this world and best boy for sure, but this just makes me want to give him a /hug even moreso. Guy steals the show (loved him in the final Pantheon trial "Go, my friend, I'll take care of things here."), and I now want even more G'Raha.
Maybe, if this interpretation of that scene is right, they'll someday delve more into his feelings. With centuries of memories and effectively two lives himself, there's a lot to unpack there for sure...
If nothing else, it makes me even more happy we got to keep him as a permanent member of the team at the end of ShB. I loved that we did then, but I appreciate him even more now.
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...and it kind of blew my mind. It did NOT occur to me that could be who he was talking about. My reply there kind of was my response, but this is something I REALLY had never thought of before, so I'm curious if anyone else felt the same way.
In a nutshell:
.
The person pointed out that Graha meant someone in particular when he said he wished he could give them one more day of life, "a happy one", were he to choose. To have just one more day with them.
The poster pointed out that the person he was likely thinking about...was the Warrior of Light in the doomed timeline where most people, including the WoL, died to Black Rose after the 8th Calamity (Stasis) made everyone's immune systems and vigor stagnate and so Black Rose ended up killing far more people, and the WoL was one of the casualties. (Kind of a "Goku died in the original timeline due to an undiagnosed heart condition" thing.)
I always thought he thought of my WoL as his WoL, because in a real way, I WAS his WoL before he was put into stasis (before the timelines split, one could argue we were the same being along that unified timeline).
I never considered the alternate possibility:
I’m not quite HIS WoL friend. Instead, he could see me like maybe if you had a friend that died, but they had a child that was their spitting image you befriended and took it on yourself to see THEY came to no harm. That your actual friend was dead, but you also came to love their child as you had your friend and look after them like a godparent in memory of your friend.
It’s possibly even more complex than that, but I had never thought he would think of us as DIFFERENT than his original WoL friend.
That’s kind of intense. It's a VERY different take than what I've always thought - that he considered our WoL to be his actual friend. What if he doesn't? What if he DOES consider us a friend, and every bit as deep a friendship, but as a memory of, or sort of twin sibling/child of his actual friend. And while he loves us dearly and considers us a true friend in every way, that he still misses his ORIGINAL WoL friend, and still wishes sometimes that he could bring THEM back and all three of us go on adventures together?
What if he considers both WoLs to be individuals, and still misses the dead one, like how the Head of Reason clearly misses his brother, even after 3 years of being gone.
.
I dunno, maybe I'm OVERthinking it now...but what if?
That just seems so weighty to me for them to say in story, and makes that moment hit a lot harder (especially for me being too dense to see it). G'Raha is too pure for this world and best boy for sure, but this just makes me want to give him a /hug even moreso. Guy steals the show (loved him in the final Pantheon trial "Go, my friend, I'll take care of things here."), and I now want even more G'Raha.
Maybe, if this interpretation of that scene is right, they'll someday delve more into his feelings. With centuries of memories and effectively two lives himself, there's a lot to unpack there for sure...
If nothing else, it makes me even more happy we got to keep him as a permanent member of the team at the end of ShB. I loved that we did then, but I appreciate him even more now.
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