Next Limbus Cycle

sarahlynn

sarahlynn

Bootylicious Mistress of the Night
Ok, I'm thinking of doing another Proto-Omega cycle immediately following this one. I know several people need some items for AF+1 from Apollyon, and the coin drops are in general better in apollyon areas compared to temenos. So if nobody has any major objections, this is what we'll plan.
 
I think this is a great idea!

Considering getting to Omega takes no time at all, we could equip main jobs with full Homam in an even shorter amount of time; then they can move onto secondaries.
 
I will eat your first child (cujo) if I dont get that FUCKING DOESKIN THIS TIME AROUND FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD. Also, I was sad that the item didnt drop, but the amount of coins from last nights run had my e-peen stiff as a board. That is all.
 
Cujo said:
I think this is a great idea!

Considering getting to Omega takes no time at all, we could equip main jobs with full Homam in an even shorter amount of time; then they can move onto secondaries.
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:orangenod

I agree with Cujo on this.
 
Cujo said:
I think this is a great idea!

Considering getting to Omega takes no time at all, we could equip main jobs with full Homam in an even shorter amount of time; then they can move onto secondaries.
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What about the mages needing Nashira? =/ And if we did this, how would it count for attendance for the next Temenos? Lol, I attended last Friday's Limbus thinking it would count for the next Temenos cycle, and I don't exactly have money to throw around on this.
 
I also think that alternating Nashira gear then Honam Gear is best. Even though coins arent as good with Ultima areas, they also drop AF+1 items needed. If Omega areas happen 2x in a row, then would only be fair to mages to do Ultima 2x in a row. I wouldn't change it up. Of course it takes no time to do Omega areas, so instead of using that as a reason to do it 2 times, could think of it just giving us a chance to move to Ultima quicker to go back to Omega again.

~Pitlith
 
Pitlith said:
I also think that alternating Nashira gear then Honam Gear is best. Even though coins arent as good with Ultima areas, they also drop AF+1 items needed. If Omega areas happen 2x in a row, then would only be fair to mages to do Ultima 2x in a row. I wouldn't change it up. Of course it takes no time to do Omega areas, so instead of using that as a reason to do it 2 times, could think of it just giving us a chance to move to Ultima quicker to go back to Omega again.

~Pitlith
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If you want to be fair, both cycle should get the same amount of time, thus being able to complete two Omega sets in that amount of time. If you want to call it unfair, blame SE for the way they designed limbus.
 
lostsoul said:
If you want to be fair, both cycle should get the same amount of time, thus being able to complete two Omega sets in that amount of time. If you want to call it unfair, blame SE for the way they designed limbus.
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Yes it's not exactly fair that it takes longer to do Proto-Ultima, but if you do this you're still doing two Proto-Omega fights, then doing maybe one Proto-Ultima, seeing as how I don't see doing two Proto-Ultima fights in a row coming anytime soon, it really does not seem right in my eyes.
 
Pitlith said:
I also think that alternating Nashira gear then Honam Gear is best. Even though coins arent as good with Ultima areas, they also drop AF+1 items needed. If Omega areas happen 2x in a row, then would only be fair to mages to do Ultima 2x in a row. I wouldn't change it up. Of course it takes no time to do Omega areas, so instead of using that as a reason to do it 2 times, could think of it just giving us a chance to move to Ultima quicker to go back to Omega again.

~Pitlith
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Actually, Pit, people specifically are in need of Apollyon components of AF+1, which do not drop at all in Temenos areas. The way limbus is designed, collecting pop items for Proto-Ultima takes 3x longer and we end up with more Temenos AF+1 items than Apollyon.

Like I said, we'd do this if no major objections, but one was raised, so we will be back to Temenos on Friday.
 
then again how is it fair time wise to the people who do omega for 1 week compared to 2.5 weeks for ultima? we spent almost all of january in temenos. so i guess both sides have problems with this issue
 
Yaeko said:
Yes it's not exactly fair that it takes longer to do Proto-Ultima, but if you do this you're still doing two Proto-Omega fights, then doing maybe one Proto-Ultima, seeing as how I don't see doing two Proto-Ultima fights in a row coming anytime soon, it really does not seem right in my eyes.
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Joa, I never said it was fair. ^^;
 
Lol, well, I was just throwing a point out is all. What I guess everyone is missing out on is that it depends on what is actually the goal of all of this. If the goal is to alternate between Ultima and Omega for the drops on each fight, then yes, keep going the way it is. If the goal is to go for AF+1 that people need, then yes, change the order as need be. I just figured that we were focused on Honam and Nashira gear first, and getting AF+1 gear along the way, since Honam/Nashira gear > AF+1 on an overall basis. But could just be my opinion. Question is, even though it may take longer for Ultima areas, doesnt 1 out of 2 pieces for AF+1 only drop in one Ultima zone and one Omega zone? If so, then would still be equal if areas are alternated. Would give everyone the same chance of obtaining each areas piece equally. I am a little unsure of that though, so just speculating from what I remember. No worries though, that is why Sarah posted on here so that people could input their opinions.

~Pitlith

Edit: Oh, and as far as being fair on the time it takes for each area? Not sure about that unless that was ever stated in all of this. If it was, then it would always have been 2 Omegas to every 1 Ultima. It has always been alternating, at least majority of the time.
 
No, Pit, there are 6 Temenos zones and only 4 Apollyon zones, so there's an abundance of Temenos AF+1 items.

Whatever the case, we'll just keep doing what we've always done, alternating. It's just so frustrating that Ultima takes 1.5 times more effort to get to, is more difficult than Proto-Omega, and Nashira is pretty crappy compared to Homam.
 
My thought on the issue is we should alternate. If we do 2x Omega > 1x Ultima soon the melee will all have their shit leaving half an alliance of mages wondering why the hell they helped the melee who just left them high and dry. Tis unfortunate, but true.
 
Well, as i said before I could be wrong lol. Wasnt claiming to be right. Also, i wasnt comparing Honam to Nashira, I was comparing each to other gear. Like Nashira Gages, Feet, Legs, Turban. etc.

~Pitlith
 
Fodder said:
My thought on the issue is we should alternate. If we do 2x Omega > 1x Ultima soon the melee will all have their shit leaving half an alliance of mages wondering why the hell they helped the melee who just left them high and dry. Tis unfortunate, but true.
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i don't mind 2 omega vs 1 ultima run as long as the above don't happen or it gets a thumbs down from me.
 
Instead of doing 2 Omegas in a row, why don't we break down the Apollyon blitz into 3 days. So on the first day we all go as an alliance to fight the 3 Kings like we used to do, the second day we split up and take on the other 3 areas and on the third day we fight Omega. I understand that the Apollyon zones are a lot easier and we can blitz them but if we take an extra day and head into the zones with more fire power, we can take our time and kill all the mobs and open the treasures rather than being pressed for time and just taking all TEs and killing the boss with like 30 secs to go and ending up with another White Rivet. At least this way it spreads out the Apollyon runs a bit more and gives and more opportunity for AF+1 mats to drop. It would make the runs a bit more enjoyable too with more numbers in the alliance and safety.
 
i like predakings idea. I've been trying to get a fucking spool of diabolic silk for two months now, but because we split and blaze through apollyon, i can't imagine i'll ever see that item. Me and egy had to fucking DUO the kings zone because magos had an internet fart. That just sucked. We didn't win, and i deleveled. I really couldn't care less about nashira gear, I'm in it for the AFv1 +1.
 
I was recently asked by a few ls members why i took a few weeks off helping ls do limbus and the reason is simple.All limbus is viewed as by most is Homam and Nashira useable only by a handful of people actually going.What i feel gets lost in this is the fact to me theres onlly 1 really great piece of nashira and rest r just situational.Homam pwns no doubt.What about the at least 50% if not more of the people going who want coins and AF+1 items.The way i see it some of the AF+1 items far exceed most of the nashira and some compare to homam.Anyways the reason i stopped goin for a while and went trio/duo in apolly is the simple fact that we blitz apolly and ultima we cant takes way longer and when we blitz apolly like preda said we lose so many AF upgrade items having to take TEs insted of item chests cause lack of manpower to pwn the zones.It took me a year and a half to get apolly nin upgrade item (most wasnt with u guys obviously) but i was helping prior ls's in same manner i took 1 week off to duo/trio and i got 2 nin apolly items back to back not to mention abundence of coins for the uber gears bought by coins which i might also add rivals ultima/omega drops.

Sorry for the WALL O TEXT i fail at english and puntuation

Ill continue to help ls but there will be points where i will head out and duo/trio

<3 Da FrEaK
 
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