Note on dragons. Their hate buildup is linked the Angra Maru (sp?). Whoever has the most hate from the boss is #1 in their queue, so all four are on that one person. They then just mow down through the queue. While it would be fun, and in a single party PLD RNG RNG RNG RDM WHM we got the wind pukis down to 40%. They are very difficult to separate and take down. They have nasty horrid AoEs that slaughter many people at once, and they don't drop anything supposedly. Yeah it'd be fun, but I've lost to them twice with 64 people. We usually go with half that so I think we'd be handing them our asses.