After giving some feedback and trying to propose a few possible improvemens to the current DRK without changing the current framework, I wanted to try to do something else. What’s follow are some ideas for a rework, trying to be mostly realistic and not creating totally new mechanics.
Of course, what’s following is clearly not something I think we’ll see at all, but I had some fun trying to do it and wanted to hear what other people would think about it.
To explain my aim, here were my guidelines while working on it:
1 – Trying to reunite designs ideas of both pre ShB and post ShB DRK.
2 – Putting DRK back to its place as the oGCD king of tanks while not going all the way to StB APM.
3 – Make us actually manage all our resources: MP, Blood and Darkside.
4 – Improve DRK defensive toolkit while keeping its uniqueness.
5 – Make DRK more distinct from other tanks.
So, here we go.
Skill merge and removal:
Flood of Darkness/Shadow, removed and merged with Edge of Shadow (à la Shoha for SAM)
Edge of Shadow: (oGCD)
Deals unaspected damage in a cone before you. with a potency of 300 for the first enemy and 60% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Darkside, increasing damage delt by 10%.
Duration: 30s
Extends Darkside duration by 30s to a maximum of 60s.
MP cost: 2400
Recast time: 1s
=> I merged Edge and Flood and made it weaker, with fall off damage. It will be the same with the upgraded version. Why keeping Edge and not Flood? Just because I prefer Edge animation. The MP cost has also been lowered by 600mp, to make more MP spenders available. Edge of Darkness, the lv 30 version, would be 200 potency, always with 60% fall off damage.
New Skills:
Lv 40 Dark Arts: (oGCD)
Attune with the darkness within you, granting 3 stacks of Dark Arts, increasing the potency of several actions.
Duration: 15s
MP cost: 2400
Recast time: 5s
=> Dark Arts is back but changed.
It now grants three stacks of Dark Arts instead of being a single use, to actually make it less spammy. The 15s is to both assure you have enough time to do multiple possible enhanced skills, but not too long as to be able to do 3 Souleater combos and use the stacks on those 3 Souleater.
The affected skills are:
- Gaining 200 potency, Carve and Spit.
- Gaining 120 potency, Souleater, Bloodspiller, Scourge, Scarlet Delirium, Comeuppance, Torcleaver and Disesteem.
- Gaining 60 potency, Stalwart Soul, Quietus and Impalement.
So, you would, as it was back in the old days, always want to have a Dark Arts stack for Carve and Spit, but outside of that, every skill has the same potency as before. Since the 3 stacks would always hit harder combined than an Edge, you would use Edge to pump damage in burst when you have DA stacks, or to upkeep Darkside during downtimes, making it actually something you would have to pay a bit of attention.
At lower level, it would only be 2 stacks, and would upgrade to 3 at lv 58, to give something to “learn” at this level.
Lv 76 Scourge: (GCD)
Delivers an attack with a potency of 500 (example, it can be changed of course)
Dark Arts Potency: 620
Additional Effect:
Reduces weaponskill cast time and recast time, spell cast time and recast time and auto-attack delay by 10%.
Duration: 21s
Blood Cost: 30
Recast time: 60s
※This weaponskill does not share a recast timer with any other actions.
=> While I decided to pay homage to this og skill, it is not at all the same skill in function. Scourge has two objectives: first, adding another Blood Spender to DRK to force us to have to manage it a tiny bit; second, adding back some speed buff that was removed after Stormblood ended. This would make us gain one GCD a minute. I decided to put a 30 blood cost to not make it too overbearing on the Blood economy. Bloodspiller and Quietus are still at 50.
Changes to MP generation and spending:
Generation
Carve and Spit: (oGCD)
Delivers a threefold attack with a potency of 540.
Dark Arts Potency: 740
Additional Effect: Restores MP
MP restoration effect: 600
Recast time: 30s
=> I lowered the recast time to 30s to spice up even more the filler downtime and to generate more MP. Like before, its Dark Arts effect is the strongest, meaning you would always want to Dark Arts CnS. Since we now have three stacks of DA per use, it’s not a forced double weave, removing this criticism from back then.
Delirium: (oGCD)
Grants 3 stacks of Delirium and 5 stacks of Blood Weapon.
Delirium Effect: Changes Bloodspiller to Scarlet Delirium and Quietus to Impalement
Duration: 15s
Blood Weapon Effect: Each stack increases Blood Gauge by 10 and restores MP upon landing weaponskills or spells
Duration: 15s
MP restoration effect: 600 per hit
Effect does not stack when hitting multiple targets with a single attack.
Recast time: 40s
=> I simply put back Blood Weapon to 5 stacks, and reduced the cooldown to 40s, the same than during StB and HW, to reduce the downtime doing only the 123 combo. The Delirium part is unchanged. Of course, the Lv 35 Blood Weapon would also get the cd reduction and the 5 stacks. With that, the MP generation would be higher than it has been since ShB, but not so much as to become overwhelming.
Scarlet Delirium, Comeuppance and Torcleaver
MP restoration effect: 300
=> I boosted the MP generation from 200 to 300 to balance a bit the mana generation without adding too much MP overall after spreadsheeting the rotation. It seems negligible, but it is useful to assure a smooth MP economy.
Spending:
All MP spenders are at 2400MP.
=>The price cut to 2400 Mp is to make MP spenders more flexible and more available overall. From what I’ve mapped out, we’re around 7 MP spender a minute with this economy.
If you want more MP spending, just lower MP spenders cost 2000. It works, I tried spreadsheeting it, it flows quite well.
MP spenders:
Edge of Shadow/Darkness
Dark Arts
Abyssal Drain
TBN
Here are the MP spenders I haven’t presented yet:
Abyssal Drain: (GCD)
Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 120 to target and all enemies nearby it.
Additional Effect: Restores own HP.
Cure Potency: 200 per enemy
MP Cost: 2400
=> It’s basically the StB version of Abyssal Drain, but with the heal not needing Dark Arts. Since it’s not generating resources and costing MP, it would clearly be a pure sustain skill in dungeon and its price is high enough to not be able to be spammed brainlessly, since what made DA Abyssal Drain stupidly strong in Stormblood was that it could be spammed with how ressources worked.
The Blackest Night: (oGCD)
Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage totaling 25% of target's maximum HP.
Duration: 10s
Grants Retribution when barrier is completely absorbed.
Retribution Effect: Consume Retribution instead of MP to execute Edge of Shadow, Abyssal Drain or Dark Arts.
Cannot be cast while the barrier is active.
MP Cost: 2400
(no recast time)
=>I removed the recast time of TBN and lengthened its duration a bit, but both kept the MP requirement and added the condition of not already being under its effect. The DA stack is still here but changed in name. That makes TBN even more flexible, with news uses to cover multi-hit busters better, while keeping the risk/reward of the skill and the skill expression, even if the longer duration would make it easier to break.
And here is a change to assure that the burst window stays busy on the MP side:
Lv 80 Living Shadow: (oGCD)
Conjure a simulacrum of your darkside to fight alongside you.
Duration: 20s
Additional Effect: Grants Scorn
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: Grants three stacks of Dark Embrace.
Dark Embrace Effect: Halves the MP requirement for Edge of Shadow, Dark Arts, Abyssal Drain and The Blackest Night.
Duration: 30s
Simulacrum Attack Potency: 420
Additional Effect: Simulacrum is able to execute Shadowbringer and Disesteem
Shadowbringer Potency: 570 for the first enemy, and 25% less for all remaining enemies
Disesteem Potency: 620 for the first enemy, and 25% less for all remaining enemies
Recast Time: 120s
=> I added Dark Embrace, to give more weight in playstyle to Esteem being present. I limited it to only three stacks, to limit the amount of MP spenders in burst. Given how the job is working, with Darkside to upkeep and Carve and Spit forcing a Dark Arts use every 30s, don’t worry, it’s about the same amount of weaves inside the 2mn burst window as it is now, maybe one more. A MP spender using the Retribution from TBN would not consume a Dark Embrace stack.
Defensive changes:
I’ve already covered TBN and Abyssal Drain, but here are the other changes made to DRK defensive kit.
Dark Mind: (oGCD)
Reduces magic vulnerability by 20% and physical vulnerability by 10%.
Duration: 10s
Recast time: 60s
=> I added the physical mitigation that everyone wanted. Given that GNB Camouflage is 20s long, I think Dark Mind can keep its 60s cooldown, even with the added physical mitigation.
Salted Earth: (oGCD)
Creates a patch of salted earth at your feet, dealing unaspected damage with a potency of 50 to any enemies who enter.
Additional Effect: Gradually restores your HP while standing in the patch of salted earth.
Duration 15s
Cure Potency: 200
Recast time: 90s
=> Taking some inspiration from the PVP version of Salted Earth, like many of us thought, you now have some sustain added, making it more useful.
Lv 64 Dark Missionary: (oGCD)
Reduces magic damage taken by self and nearby party members by 10% and physical damage by self and nearby party member by 5%.
Duration: 15s
Recast Time: 90s
=> Dark Missionary has been lowered to Lv 64, while Quietus has been moved up to LV 72 for the levelling, to make it available for 70 ultimates. It also got the “virus update”, with a bit of physical mitigation.
Oblation: (oGCD)
Reduces damage taken by target party member by 10%
Duration: 10s
Additional effect: Grants Abyssal Offering.
Abyssal Offering: Restores HP every time the target suffers damage.
Cure Potency: 200
Duration: 6s
Maximum Charges: 2
Recast Time: 60s
=> The last bit of sustain added, to align it with the upgrades other tanks got to their short mitigations. I tried to put some flavour on it, to make it different than other sustain effects on short mitigations, taking a bit of inspiration from old blood price, but for HP. This would make the skill really strong in dungeons packs, that’s why I limited the cure potency to only 200.
Finishing words and last explanations:
With this rework, I tried to not copy other tanks as much as I could and to keep and build on what made DRK stand out from others. That’s why I kept the “magic damage specialist” aspect of the job intact while reducing its physical damage weakness. I didn’t touch numbers from older skills, but of course such a rework would necessitate a balance to all numbers.
I tried to merge most of the things I liked about all versions of DRK, while making it coherent with the current encounter and job design. That’s why DRK is still aligned with the 2mn meta, even with the added variety to downtime. Finally, of course, this rework reflects what I like about DRK, I like pressing buttons and high APM jobs, what DRK was historically, but I know that not everyone likes the same things about the job, and that’s fine. I could add even more MP to add more weaves, that would not be a problem for me, but I think it might be for others.
Finally, this is the idea of a rework for the current expansion, Dawntrail. I can’t imagine what changes in design SE will do for 8.0 and it’s mostly something I made for fun. If it can give ideas, great. But I’m not deluded enough to imagine SE taking inspiration from this, of course.
That’s all. Thank you for taking time reading this. Don’t hesitate to share your thoughts.
Continue reading...
Of course, what’s following is clearly not something I think we’ll see at all, but I had some fun trying to do it and wanted to hear what other people would think about it.
To explain my aim, here were my guidelines while working on it:
1 – Trying to reunite designs ideas of both pre ShB and post ShB DRK.
2 – Putting DRK back to its place as the oGCD king of tanks while not going all the way to StB APM.
3 – Make us actually manage all our resources: MP, Blood and Darkside.
4 – Improve DRK defensive toolkit while keeping its uniqueness.
5 – Make DRK more distinct from other tanks.
So, here we go.
Skill merge and removal:
Flood of Darkness/Shadow, removed and merged with Edge of Shadow (à la Shoha for SAM)
Edge of Shadow: (oGCD)
Deals unaspected damage in a cone before you. with a potency of 300 for the first enemy and 60% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Grants Darkside, increasing damage delt by 10%.
Duration: 30s
Extends Darkside duration by 30s to a maximum of 60s.
MP cost: 2400
Recast time: 1s
=> I merged Edge and Flood and made it weaker, with fall off damage. It will be the same with the upgraded version. Why keeping Edge and not Flood? Just because I prefer Edge animation. The MP cost has also been lowered by 600mp, to make more MP spenders available. Edge of Darkness, the lv 30 version, would be 200 potency, always with 60% fall off damage.
New Skills:
Lv 40 Dark Arts: (oGCD)
Attune with the darkness within you, granting 3 stacks of Dark Arts, increasing the potency of several actions.
Duration: 15s
MP cost: 2400
Recast time: 5s
=> Dark Arts is back but changed.
It now grants three stacks of Dark Arts instead of being a single use, to actually make it less spammy. The 15s is to both assure you have enough time to do multiple possible enhanced skills, but not too long as to be able to do 3 Souleater combos and use the stacks on those 3 Souleater.
The affected skills are:
- Gaining 200 potency, Carve and Spit.
- Gaining 120 potency, Souleater, Bloodspiller, Scourge, Scarlet Delirium, Comeuppance, Torcleaver and Disesteem.
- Gaining 60 potency, Stalwart Soul, Quietus and Impalement.
So, you would, as it was back in the old days, always want to have a Dark Arts stack for Carve and Spit, but outside of that, every skill has the same potency as before. Since the 3 stacks would always hit harder combined than an Edge, you would use Edge to pump damage in burst when you have DA stacks, or to upkeep Darkside during downtimes, making it actually something you would have to pay a bit of attention.
At lower level, it would only be 2 stacks, and would upgrade to 3 at lv 58, to give something to “learn” at this level.
Lv 76 Scourge: (GCD)
Delivers an attack with a potency of 500 (example, it can be changed of course)
Dark Arts Potency: 620
Additional Effect:
Reduces weaponskill cast time and recast time, spell cast time and recast time and auto-attack delay by 10%.
Duration: 21s
Blood Cost: 30
Recast time: 60s
※This weaponskill does not share a recast timer with any other actions.
=> While I decided to pay homage to this og skill, it is not at all the same skill in function. Scourge has two objectives: first, adding another Blood Spender to DRK to force us to have to manage it a tiny bit; second, adding back some speed buff that was removed after Stormblood ended. This would make us gain one GCD a minute. I decided to put a 30 blood cost to not make it too overbearing on the Blood economy. Bloodspiller and Quietus are still at 50.
Changes to MP generation and spending:
Generation
Carve and Spit: (oGCD)
Delivers a threefold attack with a potency of 540.
Dark Arts Potency: 740
Additional Effect: Restores MP
MP restoration effect: 600
Recast time: 30s
=> I lowered the recast time to 30s to spice up even more the filler downtime and to generate more MP. Like before, its Dark Arts effect is the strongest, meaning you would always want to Dark Arts CnS. Since we now have three stacks of DA per use, it’s not a forced double weave, removing this criticism from back then.
Delirium: (oGCD)
Grants 3 stacks of Delirium and 5 stacks of Blood Weapon.
Delirium Effect: Changes Bloodspiller to Scarlet Delirium and Quietus to Impalement
Duration: 15s
Blood Weapon Effect: Each stack increases Blood Gauge by 10 and restores MP upon landing weaponskills or spells
Duration: 15s
MP restoration effect: 600 per hit
Effect does not stack when hitting multiple targets with a single attack.
Recast time: 40s
=> I simply put back Blood Weapon to 5 stacks, and reduced the cooldown to 40s, the same than during StB and HW, to reduce the downtime doing only the 123 combo. The Delirium part is unchanged. Of course, the Lv 35 Blood Weapon would also get the cd reduction and the 5 stacks. With that, the MP generation would be higher than it has been since ShB, but not so much as to become overwhelming.
Scarlet Delirium, Comeuppance and Torcleaver
MP restoration effect: 300
=> I boosted the MP generation from 200 to 300 to balance a bit the mana generation without adding too much MP overall after spreadsheeting the rotation. It seems negligible, but it is useful to assure a smooth MP economy.
Spending:
All MP spenders are at 2400MP.
=>The price cut to 2400 Mp is to make MP spenders more flexible and more available overall. From what I’ve mapped out, we’re around 7 MP spender a minute with this economy.
If you want more MP spending, just lower MP spenders cost 2000. It works, I tried spreadsheeting it, it flows quite well.
MP spenders:
Edge of Shadow/Darkness
Dark Arts
Abyssal Drain
TBN
Here are the MP spenders I haven’t presented yet:
Abyssal Drain: (GCD)
Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 120 to target and all enemies nearby it.
Additional Effect: Restores own HP.
Cure Potency: 200 per enemy
MP Cost: 2400
=> It’s basically the StB version of Abyssal Drain, but with the heal not needing Dark Arts. Since it’s not generating resources and costing MP, it would clearly be a pure sustain skill in dungeon and its price is high enough to not be able to be spammed brainlessly, since what made DA Abyssal Drain stupidly strong in Stormblood was that it could be spammed with how ressources worked.
The Blackest Night: (oGCD)
Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage totaling 25% of target's maximum HP.
Duration: 10s
Grants Retribution when barrier is completely absorbed.
Retribution Effect: Consume Retribution instead of MP to execute Edge of Shadow, Abyssal Drain or Dark Arts.
Cannot be cast while the barrier is active.
MP Cost: 2400
(no recast time)
=>I removed the recast time of TBN and lengthened its duration a bit, but both kept the MP requirement and added the condition of not already being under its effect. The DA stack is still here but changed in name. That makes TBN even more flexible, with news uses to cover multi-hit busters better, while keeping the risk/reward of the skill and the skill expression, even if the longer duration would make it easier to break.
And here is a change to assure that the burst window stays busy on the MP side:
Lv 80 Living Shadow: (oGCD)
Conjure a simulacrum of your darkside to fight alongside you.
Duration: 20s
Additional Effect: Grants Scorn
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: Grants three stacks of Dark Embrace.
Dark Embrace Effect: Halves the MP requirement for Edge of Shadow, Dark Arts, Abyssal Drain and The Blackest Night.
Duration: 30s
Simulacrum Attack Potency: 420
Additional Effect: Simulacrum is able to execute Shadowbringer and Disesteem
Shadowbringer Potency: 570 for the first enemy, and 25% less for all remaining enemies
Disesteem Potency: 620 for the first enemy, and 25% less for all remaining enemies
Recast Time: 120s
=> I added Dark Embrace, to give more weight in playstyle to Esteem being present. I limited it to only three stacks, to limit the amount of MP spenders in burst. Given how the job is working, with Darkside to upkeep and Carve and Spit forcing a Dark Arts use every 30s, don’t worry, it’s about the same amount of weaves inside the 2mn burst window as it is now, maybe one more. A MP spender using the Retribution from TBN would not consume a Dark Embrace stack.
Defensive changes:
I’ve already covered TBN and Abyssal Drain, but here are the other changes made to DRK defensive kit.
Dark Mind: (oGCD)
Reduces magic vulnerability by 20% and physical vulnerability by 10%.
Duration: 10s
Recast time: 60s
=> I added the physical mitigation that everyone wanted. Given that GNB Camouflage is 20s long, I think Dark Mind can keep its 60s cooldown, even with the added physical mitigation.
Salted Earth: (oGCD)
Creates a patch of salted earth at your feet, dealing unaspected damage with a potency of 50 to any enemies who enter.
Additional Effect: Gradually restores your HP while standing in the patch of salted earth.
Duration 15s
Cure Potency: 200
Recast time: 90s
=> Taking some inspiration from the PVP version of Salted Earth, like many of us thought, you now have some sustain added, making it more useful.
Lv 64 Dark Missionary: (oGCD)
Reduces magic damage taken by self and nearby party members by 10% and physical damage by self and nearby party member by 5%.
Duration: 15s
Recast Time: 90s
=> Dark Missionary has been lowered to Lv 64, while Quietus has been moved up to LV 72 for the levelling, to make it available for 70 ultimates. It also got the “virus update”, with a bit of physical mitigation.
Oblation: (oGCD)
Reduces damage taken by target party member by 10%
Duration: 10s
Additional effect: Grants Abyssal Offering.
Abyssal Offering: Restores HP every time the target suffers damage.
Cure Potency: 200
Duration: 6s
Maximum Charges: 2
Recast Time: 60s
=> The last bit of sustain added, to align it with the upgrades other tanks got to their short mitigations. I tried to put some flavour on it, to make it different than other sustain effects on short mitigations, taking a bit of inspiration from old blood price, but for HP. This would make the skill really strong in dungeons packs, that’s why I limited the cure potency to only 200.
Finishing words and last explanations:
With this rework, I tried to not copy other tanks as much as I could and to keep and build on what made DRK stand out from others. That’s why I kept the “magic damage specialist” aspect of the job intact while reducing its physical damage weakness. I didn’t touch numbers from older skills, but of course such a rework would necessitate a balance to all numbers.
I tried to merge most of the things I liked about all versions of DRK, while making it coherent with the current encounter and job design. That’s why DRK is still aligned with the 2mn meta, even with the added variety to downtime. Finally, of course, this rework reflects what I like about DRK, I like pressing buttons and high APM jobs, what DRK was historically, but I know that not everyone likes the same things about the job, and that’s fine. I could add even more MP to add more weaves, that would not be a problem for me, but I think it might be for others.
Finally, this is the idea of a rework for the current expansion, Dawntrail. I can’t imagine what changes in design SE will do for 8.0 and it’s mostly something I made for fun. If it can give ideas, great. But I’m not deluded enough to imagine SE taking inspiration from this, of course.
That’s all. Thank you for taking time reading this. Don’t hesitate to share your thoughts.
Continue reading...